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p.2 #1 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


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The bottom line is the more cameras around and in sight of the subject being photographer the more they look away and a great shot turns into a missed or average shot. "Uncle Bobs" also prevent the spontanious moments that make a good album when the bride or couple are alone and relaxed or just interacting. I never worry the quality of my images as they are well lit, well cropped and of print quality. It is the other factors I have no control over that take album images from just being well shot to full of feeling and emotion.
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i guess thats the difference...i do not want wedding practice shots, i want them for my own personal collection.



Jul 25, 2008 at 01:59 PM
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p.2 #2 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


hey hassy, you have any point and shoots laying around you want to lend me?


Jul 25, 2008 at 02:00 PM
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p.2 #3 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


I agree with Maurice Ramirez' assessment, though jefferies1 also has a good point. I find that the sheer number of cameras being used at weddings makes it impossible to get certain types of broad view, atmosphere shots that really used to be a nice part of the wedding keepsake.

However, you are so aware of the situation that I can't believe you would cause any problems. You certainly won't be clicking, buzzing, and flashing indiscriminately, which describes 30-40% of the guests at some weddings. I've been in a bride's "getting ready room" doing pre-ceremony photos with four bridesmaids and three or four other friends and family members - there have been as many as five cameras being used in there along with mine! It gets to be a bit much.

Bottom line is I think you'll be fine and the pro won't mind what you do. Good luck and enjoy the wedding!



Jul 25, 2008 at 02:13 PM
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p.2 #4 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


Chuck, I'll go to the wedding as well with my 500L on the 1DII, throw on the 580EX with a better beamer and ever time I take a shot I'll loudly announce "Ohhhh yea, that's a keeper.". No one will even notice you are there

Actually I usually just carry my 5D 35L as a point and shoot, it's really not a large set up and as you already know it's quite versatile.



Jul 25, 2008 at 02:33 PM
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p.2 #5 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


canerino wrote:
hey hassy, you have any point and shoots laying around you want to lend me?



Sorry no, but i do have a Bronica SQA with 50/80 and 150 lenses with 220 backs you can borrow ?



Jul 25, 2008 at 02:36 PM
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formula4speed wrote:
Chuck, I'll go to the wedding as well with my 500L on the 1DII, throw on the 580EX with a better beamer and ever time I take a shot I'll loudly announce "Ohhhh yea, that's a keeper.". No one will even notice you are there

Actually I usually just carry my 5D 35L as a point and shoot, it's really not a large set up and as you already know it's quite versatile.


dude I laughed out loud.

I thought of that combo but I really wanted to shoot some film and I only have 35mm on the leica. Maybe I can borrow your 500! And I prefer to yell "I f ing nailed that shot"



Jul 25, 2008 at 02:44 PM
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hassy501 wrote:
Sorry no, but i do have a Bronica SQA with 50/80 and 150 lenses with 220 backs you can borrow ?



I wouldn't want to bring better gear than the pro, but thanks!



Jul 25, 2008 at 02:47 PM
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p.2 #8 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


jefferies1 wrote:
The bottom line is the more cameras around and in sight of the subject being photographer the more they look away and a great shot turns into a missed or average shot. "Uncle Bobs" also prevent the spontanious moments that make a good album when the bride or couple are alone and relaxed or just interacting. I never worry the quality of my images as they are well lit, well cropped and of print quality. It is the other factors I have no control over that take album images from just being well shot to full of feeling and emotion.
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Excellent points.......BIG PLUS on the intimacy issues......i have had people in the background behind me yelling out stuff as I'm tyring to get the couple to be intimate, romantic........but they couldn't due to the guests yelling stuff.............

"Oh baby, yeah, that's it, kiss her"..."
Whistling, whooping......you name it.................how can a just married couple feel comfortable with each other when crap like that is going on around them.......it's just impossible to capture special shots......when all the uncle bobs and aunt janes are causing a ruckus in the background.

So it's not merely an issue of taking photos, it involves distractions.



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Jul 25, 2008 at 02:51 PM
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p.2 #9 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


rest assured hassy I am definitely NOT that guy. I promise.


Jul 25, 2008 at 02:53 PM
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p.2 #10 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


I've spent the last few days visiting my Daughter and family to celebrate my Grandson's 14th birthday. Last evening I was showing her around the 'Uncle Bob' thread and we had some laughs.

This morning she asked about it again. In my family and extended family I'm known as the photographer and have the biggest one around, a D100 w' grip and a SB800. When I show up at a family function I automatically get promoted from participant to official photographer. It just happens.

I told my daughter I'd introduce myself to the Pro, explain to him/her that I'm Uncle George not Uncle Bob. That's my brother. I'd let the Pro know that I was going to shoot for myself and would stay out of the way. That I would put my gear down if it got into that 'eyes' thing that each and everyone of us hates.

The Pro's getting paid to produce and doesn't need me or anyone else screwing up their job.

It would be a balance though, Uncle George or just another Uncle Bob.

George



Jul 25, 2008 at 03:17 PM
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p.2 #11 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


Wow, i'm really surprised at how many uncle bob's there are out there......that belong to this forum........there's a post nearly every day regarding this..........

Have fun !!



Jul 25, 2008 at 04:10 PM
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p.2 #12 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


I remember one wedding where the wedding coordinator took the couple in a golf cart to the lake area and I was following them.....as we were leaving uncle bob had the nerve to actually want to hitch a ride with me ...........it was funny watching him standing there as we sped away.........


Jul 25, 2008 at 04:13 PM
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p.2 #13 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


asimsoofi wrote:
You know, you could just leave your camera at home, go to the party and actually have fun. I don't know...Just an idea.



+10,000




Jul 25, 2008 at 05:33 PM
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liza wrote:
+10,000




well, i wasnt going to address this one because no matter what I write, it will come off as me being ultra defensive, but since it got a +10,000, why not.

it is such a silly statement on so many levels. it would be like me saying to you, 'chocolate ice cream is yucky, you should have vanilla...i dont know, just an idea'.

by writing your statement you assume that I have 'fun' the same way that you do. i can assure you that I am very different than you in many ways, thus, I am going to bring my camera AND have fun. i know it sounds CRAZY, but thats one of the many ways *I* have fun.



Jul 25, 2008 at 05:46 PM
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Ok, this is one thing i've always wanted to ask the unpaid wedding shooters.

What exactly do you do with the photos and what exactly do you do for the bride and groom ?
Fully edit and make a flush mount album ? Give them a fully edited disc ? Print cheap 4x6 proofs for them ? Or give them selective images on media ? Is it a gift in lieu of a real gift ?



Jul 25, 2008 at 07:32 PM
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p.2 #16 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


alright hassy, i'll play.

my intentions are to capture images for my own personal record, the way that I see their wedding. the photos that i take will most likely get printed to 4x6 and put in one of the photo boxes that I have going.

if i shoot something that is of quality (and I am not delusional about my abilities) that is unique or of something that the pro probably didnt get (after all, i know the style of the people in the wedding WAYY better than the photog), then I will probably get an 8x10 mounted, matted, and framed for them (I use WHCC for prints). i will especially do this if i get a good film shot...my lab does excellent hand processing of enlargements (including all dodging and burning where necessary).

and none of this will be a substitute for my gift to them (this couple will get $400).

but hey, thats me.



Jul 25, 2008 at 08:27 PM
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p.2 #17 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


I see.......but you are more than some uncle bob.......you do photography in other areas..........so you can do that for the couple. You appear to be the exception.

I once asked an uncle bob what he was going to do with his photos........he stated, and i quote " Uh, gee, i don't really know"..........."but it's fun"............

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...................



Jul 25, 2008 at 08:36 PM
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p.2 #18 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


canerino wrote:
by writing your statement you assume that I have 'fun' the same way that you do. i can assure you that I am very different than you in many ways, thus, I am going to bring my camera AND have fun. i know it sounds CRAZY, but thats one of the many ways *I* have fun.


+1

I bring my camera to parties because I enjoy photography! And that includes weddings.

I give from the registry, and I post some edited photos on flickr. If there's one I particularly like, I print it and give it to the couple too.



Jul 25, 2008 at 08:56 PM
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well, i wasnt going to address this one because no matter what I write, it will come off as me being ultra defensive, but since it got a +10,000, why not.

it is such a silly statement on so many levels. it would be like me saying to you, 'chocolate ice cream is yucky, you should have vanilla...i dont know, just an idea'.

by writing your statement you assume that I have 'fun' the same way that you do. i can assure you that I am very different than you in many ways, thus, I am going to bring my camera AND
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Don't sweat it canerino, just go and have fun....YOUR way!



Jul 25, 2008 at 09:03 PM
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p.2 #20 · How to NOT be an "Uncle Bob"?


I might be an "uncle Bob" at a weeding in NEw York on Augsut 9th at St PAtricks Cathedral. I don't plan on being in the way of the photographer but would like to take nice pics on the wedding.


Jul 25, 2008 at 09:23 PM
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