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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


How does the ii compare to the sigma art?


Dec 06, 2017 at 11:45 AM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


What are you upgrading from ?


Dec 06, 2017 at 12:57 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


None of the 24-105 is super impressive, the Sigma is a bit better than the Canon v1, and the v2 is a bit better in some aspects and not as good in others. v2 has better IS than the v1 and is a slight improvement but not up to the recent standards Canon has been setting with mk II/III lenses. I'd forgo the extra range and get say the optically much better Tamron 24-70 f/2.8 G2. If you own a 5Ds, cropping 70mm to 105mm FoV still leaves you with 22.4MP, same a 5D3 at 105mm. Even if you don't own the 5Ds I'd still get the Tammy for what it offers. Optically between the Canon 24-70 f/2.8L and 24-70 f/2.L II, although some reviewers say it's as good as the Nikon and Canon.


Dec 06, 2017 at 01:08 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


If I were upgrading my EF 24-105L it would be for the Sigma 24-105 lens.


Dec 06, 2017 at 02:22 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


I chose to forego the extra 35mm and get the 24-70 f/4. It's a good lens.


Dec 07, 2017 at 08:11 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


The 24 105 II is also bigger/heavier than version 1 without much of a bump to image quality. I personally think that the sigma photos I've seen look fantastic, but none of the reviews I've read say that it is much better than the Canon...I just have been impressed with the images.

To me the sigma makes the most sense if you can deal with the weight and I don't know if it's weather sealed.




Dec 08, 2017 at 01:25 AM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


If the OP has the 24-105 v.1, he/she better stays with it. Upgrading to v.2 is not cheap and will not change the output. I would consider that only for specific requirements of better build quality (eg no zoom creep).


Dec 08, 2017 at 11:46 AM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


original canon 24-105
jcolwell wrote:
What are you upgrading from ?





Dec 08, 2017 at 01:54 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


thanks for your thoughts guys. I guess I'll stick with the original 24-105 though the lens creep is definitely annoying. Does the sigma focus as fast and does the IS work better than the original canon?


Dec 08, 2017 at 02:32 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


There are always Sigma AF worries to add to the mix: deserved or undeserved.


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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


jcolwell wrote:
What are you upgrading from ?

jzucker wrote:
original canon 24-105


Hi Jack,

I'd stick, too. I bought the new 24-105/4L IS II when they were fresh, but I returned it almost immediately (before using it outdoors), after comparing it to the Mk I that I'd been using for 10+ years. On average, image quality on the Mk I and Mk II are about the same, unlike the other Mk II lens upgrades that I've done in the last five years, that all provided substantially better IQ at the edges and corners. I guess it's similar to the 6D vs. 6DII situation, where the Mk II provides some substantial improvements in support functions, but not in the basic IQ.

In most cases, I prefer to use the 24-70/4L IS instead of the 24-105/4L IS, as the 24-70mm has excellent IQ (even on the 5DS), but it's difficult to beat the 24-105/4L IS for flexibility. Besides, the 24-105L has excellent IQ in the centre, which is completely sufficient for most situations.

Cheers,
Jim



Dec 08, 2017 at 03:05 PM
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p.1 #12 · p.1 #12 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


I'm recently returned from a trip to Egypt where I used a 5D4 and my original 24-105 from 2006. From dark temples and museums to very hazy bright light the lens served well and stood up to the 5D4's resolution. I didn't find the image stabilization lacking - I think it was one of the original 4 stop IS lenses. Combined with the 5D4's amazing low light AF I got sharp detailed images in all lighting situations.

I have not directly compared my zoom with the other 24-105s except using The Digital Picture's comparator and other MTF comparisons. Its images stand up well next to those from my other lenses which I think are pretty good. Don't know what your needs are but this is my 2 cents.



Dec 08, 2017 at 04:22 PM
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p.1 #13 · p.1 #13 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


rek101 wrote:
The 24 105 II is also bigger/heavier than version 1 without much of a bump to image quality. I personally think that the sigma photos I've seen look fantastic, but none of the reviews I've read say that it is much better than the Canon...I just have been impressed with the images.

To me the sigma makes the most sense if you can deal with the weight and I don't know if it's weather sealed.


I have used the Sigma 24-105 and can say its build quality is exceptional. I also found the images I got from it were very nice and were sharper and had at least the equivalent IQ of the EF 24-105L I own.



Dec 08, 2017 at 05:58 PM
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PicGuy wrote:
I have used the Sigma 24-105 and can say its build quality is exceptional. I also found the images I got from it were very nice and were sharper and had at least the equivalent IQ of the EF 24-105L I own.


Thatís good to know. How is the autofocus speed and reliability? I was thrilled by the autofocus of the canon version, but pretty disappointed by the image quality. If autofocus is good enough for low loght events, I would way prefer having 105 and IS to f/2.8 and only 70mm reach.



Dec 09, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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rek101 wrote:
Thatís good to know. How is the autofocus speed and reliability? I was thrilled by the autofocus of the canon version, but pretty disappointed by the image quality. If autofocus is good enough for low loght events, I would way prefer having 105 and IS to f/2.8 and only 70mm reach.


I didn't notice any issues using it on a 6D for stills shooting. I never tried it for video so I can't comment in that regard. I too would prefer f/4 and IS over f/2.8 without IS.



Dec 09, 2017 at 11:20 PM
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p.1 #16 · p.1 #16 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


Last week I finally upgraded to the 24-70/4IS. I upgraded from the 24-105/4IS v1. It's been a revelation. I am so happy with this move. The 24-70/4IS is very versatile (has macro setting), very good IQ and it's smaller and lighter than the 24-105/4. Also, and most importantly, I shook off the constant worries about the 24-105/4v1 aperture malfunction issue.

Just my experience. Good luck!
Ralph



Dec 11, 2017 at 11:49 AM
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p.1 #17 · p.1 #17 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


jzucker wrote:
thanks for your thoughts guys. I guess I'll stick with the original 24-105 though the lens creep is definitely annoying. Does the sigma focus as fast and does the IS work better than the original canon?


You are right about that. 24-105 lens creep is definitely annoying



Dec 11, 2017 at 07:26 PM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


jzucker wrote:
How does the ii compare to the sigma art?


To answer the question more directly-

You should probably make the comparison for yourself, based on your own preferences and perceived requirements, however:

Expect the Sigma to provide higher image quality, at the cost of perhaps less robust AF and less effective stabilization, and of course the extra weight and lack of weather resistance.

On 24-105/4L I vs. II:
The second lens appears to be an upgrade in every way except image quality; better AF, better stabilization, better sealing, and better transmission, especially at the long end. This means that although it's probably not an upgrade, or possibly even a downgrade in terms of optics, it is a better tool; and for those weighing a larger f/2.8 lens (potentially unstabilized) versus the slower f/4 lens, the increased transmission will certainly be useful.

On alternatives:
The 24-70/4L has been mentioned and is worth consideration- it's an optical upgrade and very compact.

Also, Tamron's 24-70/2.8 VC G2 is worthy of consideration: it's obviously larger and heavier, but Tamron has upgraded everything about the lens, including massaging the optics a bit, and seriously upgraded their build quality.



Dec 11, 2017 at 08:30 PM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


Thanks John. I'll stick with my v1.


Dec 12, 2017 at 03:26 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Worth upgrading to the 24-105 ii?


If lens creep bothers you, do a search on here for solutions to stop it....there are several types of solutions.....


Dec 12, 2017 at 04:12 PM







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